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Thanks for the suggestion, but I played that mud and it is terrible for newbie friendly. There were a few people who helped me out, you being one of them, but it was still near impossible to figure anything out on my own. They just dump you into the game and that's that.. I wouldn't describe it as newbie friendly at all and for that reason it is far too much of a pian in the behind to get off the starting lines. I want a mud that I could get on even if there were 0 other players and figure it out. That's not to say I want 0 players, but I mean I want to be able to figure it out with as little help as possible. LegendMud doesn't even give you a list of starting areas, hints at newbie quests, where to find better starting gear than what you are initially given, nothing! It's just too much of a pain for my liking. Sometimes in real life you have to bust your butt trying to figure somethng out, but a game shouldn't be quite like that, at least not as a newbie. When you're new you know nothing about that particular game and you have to go through some sort of orientation, just as when you are a child you are taught first by your parents and then by attending school. Sorry this is a long message, but it's what I think and I am tempted to send it to the LegendMud immortals. Someone said they were planning to start a newbie school or somehting but have not yet. Perhaps if they do this, and put in directions to newbie zones or a list of newbie quests or something to help besides just character created, there ya go *dump* and leave you on your own, I might be tempted to come back and check it out. It does look like a very very nice mud and once you get the hang of it, it may be good, but it's not worth putting the effort into right now. Feel free to let me know if they make it more newbie friendly. Again sorry for such a long long message lol. As I said, I do appreciate the suggestion and I will keep an eye out on this mud for good newbie related changes.

--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Kirstan Mooney <...> wrote:

From: Kirstan Mooney <...>
Subject: Re: [tbmic] Looking for a mud...suggestions?
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Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 10:39 PM

Hello there. I must say, the mud I did a review about a couple of weeks ago, really has all you want in it, according to your list. It is mud.legendmud.org on port 9999. The only thing, out of your list that I can honestly say you might not be so much in favour of is, it is an era based game. So, what I mean is, it can be played in Ancient, Medi or Industrial. It doesn't have a newbie school or anything, but the community in general, is only too happy to answer questions about starting out plus there are really good help files you can use. Also, anyone with NPH which is short for New Player Helper, in their title, is only too happy to fill anyone in on the game and how it works.
Please give it a go and don't hesitate to ask me anything in the game if you see me in there. I am normally in as Krista.
Thanks and hope to see you in there soon.
Kirstan Mooney.
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From: "Amanda Robertson" <...>
To: "The Blind Mudders information and discussion center" <...> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: [tbmic] Looking for a mud...suggestions?
Looking for a mud...suggestions?Hey guys. This is a copy paste of a thread I also started on Mud Magic and Mud Connector but I wanted to get multiple ideas from multiple forums so here goes.
Â Hey people. I play several muds, all of which I find pretty cool, but There is something lacking in all of them. Odd thing is if I could find a mud that had features from all of them it'd be ideal, but I seriously doubt that. So, I would like suggestions on muds to try. Now, I have a list of preferences for mud features. This is by no means written in stone and most of these preferences are flexible. In other words, I realize I may never find a mud that meats all of these criteria, but if you know of one that meets many of them, it would be appreciated if you could tell me the mud, a little of what it is about, and the host/port so I can check it out. Here is what I am looking for. On things that are MUSTS, I will ssay so. 1. MUST be newbie friendly, as in either have some sort of newbie training or be very thorough on what a newbie should do or where they should go. 2. MUST not be roleplay enforced! I love encouraged or accepted muds because I an roleplay if I want to or not if I choose so. I can also roleplay but then if I want to know something about someone in RL, I can ask without being called insane or something. For me, roleplaying should be because I want to, not because I have to. 3. MUST NOT be a pure PK mud. I would prefer limited or no pk, if possible the option to opt out of being pkillable but that is not a must, as long as it's not pure pk and there are safe rooms and/or rules about pk, i.e. must have an IC reason or something like that. 4. MUST be screen reader accessible. I can't have a mud that is strictly reliant on ascii and ansi.. If it has those features that is fine, as long as I can navigate and get the full experience without them. 5. I would like it to have quests, both imm run and NPC generated. These are just fun but I wouldn't mind if they had decent rewards for your time and effort. 6. It'd be nice if it had some sort of crafting or inventing type thing, like invent on Revenge of the Jedi or something, or at least something where you gather materials and forge things or have a forging thing like in Aardwolf, although it is currently disabled. 7. No crazy death penalties. Minor death penalties are fine and are to be expected, but to have your corpse rot in one tick and lose all your eq or something crazy like that is too much. 8. Prefer friendly imms who are open to suggestions and/or ideas for improvement of the game, especially related to accessibility features. 9. It'd be nice to have alternate methods of gaining experience besides just killing like Project Bob or Alter Eon, i.e. exploring, treasure hunting, mining, fishing, harvesting, gathering, foraging, etc. 10. Prefer a mud where it is relatively easy for a solo player to get level appropriate gear without being completely reliant on oother players. None of this level 10 gear on a level 40 mob junk. 11. Plenty of good solo experience spots that are manageable. I like to group but we all know that you can't always find a group so having places for soloers to xp is a plus. 12. Prefer not midieval as there are far far too many of those, but if the mud fits a lot of the rest of the description, I will still check it out. 13. Would prefer a mud that is not all or mostly stock. All or mostly original would be nice. I'm so sick of seeing midgaard and new thalos and rome and all that. At least if it has stock zones, have them modified like in AvatarMud. If I think of anything else, I will add it here. Some of the games I have played and ilike, along with pros and cons to give a better idea what I am looking for include. Bleached Inuyasha Galaxy Pros: Well written game with good quests and tasks for earning currency and quest points. Fair PK rules. Good variety. Cons: Experienced solely gained from killing. Immortals who do not listen to their players, even when nearly the entire playerbase disapproves of a change. I realize that immortals are entitled to do whatever they wish with their mud, but the players are what makes the mud popular, fun and brings more players. If the existing players are not satisfied, they cannot bring in new ones. Alter Eon Pros: Lots of ways to gain experience. Well written. Cons: Hard to find experience spots at certain levels. Alternate experience methods are miniscule and really only good for very low level players. Eternal Darkness Pros: Very nice immortals. Cool quests, especially around holidays. Easy to find places to gain experience. Multiplaying up to 3 characters is fun. Cons: Not much wrong with this one, though experience is pretty well restricted to killling and it can get annoyingly repetitive when you are in the mid 100s because there are only a couple good xp spots and often other players are occupying them. So, although I say many good xping spots, that is still very much level based and there is a lot there is not enough zones for. MozartMud Pros: Good questing, nice rewards, nice immortals. Cons: Lacking in good solo xp zones around level 35â€“40 or so. Haven't gotten past that. Stuck on brutes so been playing other games. Revenge of the Jedi :Pros: Cool quests, though not enough of them. Lots of zones to xp both in groups and solo. Good class variety and love the star wars theme. Also like the space system. PK rules are fair as well. Cons: Not nearly enough quests: Mixed good immortals and jerks. Achaea
Â :Pros: Extremely well written game. Good player NPC interaction. Cool practicing system. Love the way the practice mobs actually teach you the stuff rather than just saying you practice writhe. Cons: Every room is PK, even practice rooms. PK rules are far too lax. Player run houses are far too strict. Immortals aren't that great. Drove me away from trying any IronRealms game. I was PKed my first day within like oh maybe half an hour, while practicing no less.
Â AvatarmMud Pros: Very newbie friendly. The player community is nice and very supportive. Good places to get experience both solo and grouped when in lowmort levels. Nice friendly immortals. Cons: Not enough good solo xp spots at hero levels. Not enough value in the quests to be worth it. Jedi Mud (didn't play this one long) Pros: Very nice staff Cons: Far too many stock zones and about the only star wars based stuff were the Jedi class and a single Star Wars zone. Project Bob Pros: Extremely friendly immortals. Nice player housing system. I have a 14 room place and growing. Well built and not to o much stock, though it does have a fair amount. Lots of alternatives to killing for experience. Fun and rewarding quests. Cool players. Good zones for experience. Cons: Although it's a nice game, it can still get a little redundant. Just no randomness to it. I do generally like the game but get bored with it from time to time and have to go to something else. CyberAssault Pros: Love the guns. Nice immortals that are very friendly. Good zones so far as I have seen but I'm only level 10. Cons: Still working on some things so a bit buggy. Very promising though. I think that covers all the muds I either play or have played recently, like within the last year. Hopefully those descriptions will both give an idea what I am looking for as well as maybe give other people some muds to look at if you like the way they sound. I think I've made this post long enough now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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